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I quit about 3 weeks ago, but I was an all-collector including Moonlight, and I think I spent more than 100 a year, so I think I spent about 600 in total?

I wonder why I am writing a review after quitting the game, but after playing it for 6 years, I have developed affection for it.

I'm leaving for something, so I wanted to organize my thoughts and write something down.

1. PVP fatigue accumulation and PVE trend in subculture games

In 2018, when Epic Seven was released, there were no PVE games. It was natural to find the fun in games in PVP.

After Genshin Impact, there started to be a lot of games that only had PVE, and the quality of those games is also quite high.

In a situation where there are a lot of substitutes in terms of PVE (Genshin, Starrail, Zenzone, Mobinogi, etc.)

Due to the fatigue unique to PVP and the decline in competitive spirit due to age (currently 40 seconds), interest in PVP is decreasing.

For other reasons described below, we have moved further away from PVP, and the game is operated strictly around PVP.

As I did this, I started to feel a disconnect with my gameplay (I'll explain more about this below).

2. PVP Difficulty

Epic's Silena is extremely difficult. There are many reasons why it is so difficult, but here are the ones I thought of:

There are three reasons below:

1) A huge variety of cases due to the many characters characteristic of old games.

2) Game destruction caused by some characters of overwhelming weight who go beyond the given role.

3) Very clear counter concept

Even though number 1 is a common problem for all long-running games, numbers 2 and 3 are serious problems, so I will use LoL as the comparison target.

There is always a character that becomes the standard for the meta in LoL, but when that character appears, it doesn't mean that all 5 opposing characters are defeated.

It is not structured. On the other hand, there are many characters in Epic that make 4 people foolish just by appearing, and the existence of those characters

Since you always have to be careful when picking and banning, you need to know all the characters accurately and be quite careful not to get caught in a trap.

I have to think a lot. The role assignments applied in team play (Epic standard: first turn catcher, dealer, tanker, healer) are very broken.

It is filled with characters that can play various roles. This makes the game quite complex, and because of this complexity,

Many epic creators fail to create manuals for Silena. This is a barrier to entry for newbies who do not have much knowledge of Silena.

It works and causes too much fatigue to existing users.

In the third case, when Harceti appears, all the Sun-turners become fools, and when Cheon-zel appears, the passive characters become powerless. Recently released

When the Knight of Light (I don't even remember the name anymore;;) appears, all single dealers are incapacitated. This is actually more important than balance.

This is a factor that reduces the game's dynamic, which I will explain in more detail below.

3. Repeated appearance of new characters that deny my efforts and affection

Currently, Epic Seven has a new character who plays the role of a problem solver in place of the existing Silena, and is playing the role of breaking the existing meta character.

Because of this, there is a constant demand for new characters, but the problem is that the affection and effort given to existing characters can disappear in an instant.

That's right. Out of the 50+ Moonlight characters I have, there aren't even 10 characters that are useful in Silena. The rest of the characters

Even if you spend a lot of money to get a new character, you'll just end up being an idiot and be swept away without being able to do anything.

Inflation is a chronic problem in subculture games, but if you focus on PVE, you can just lower your standards and not be greedy for new characters.

There is some compromise. If a new character comes out and you raise it by spending money, you can get 150,000 points while the previous highest score is 100,000 points.

I just have to be satisfied with 100,000 points and give up the benefits I can get from 150,000 points. On the other hand, Epic's Silena doesn't have a specific character.

A situation arises where there is no answer. This problem inevitably occurs unless you are the one who takes the initiative and shakes the deck.

Even if I barely keep up, as I mentioned above, the act of making fools of existing characters with new characters is repeated. I worked hard to raise them.

I get goosebumps watching my character keep being stupid and I stop playing PVP.

4. The sense of alienation that arises when playing a game centered on PVE

Excluding the period when I set my goal for Silena and worked hard, over 90% of the time I played in the past 3 years was PVE grinding.

If I don't use my action points in time, I'll get pushed back on items and I'll fall behind when I play Silena, so I've been doing PVE consistently, but for the reasons I wrote above,

Since I stopped doing PVP, a contradictory situation arose. I don't neglect to dress up to look good to the opposite sex, but when it comes to the opposite sex,

Should I say that it is a situation where I hate meeting people? So, the materials for making items keep piling up, but it is annoying to actually make them, so I am going to make them by part.

Before I quit, I had 50,000 to 200,000 materials piled up. I think it was because of the recent event that made me use up all the crafting materials.

It seems like the game company has realized that there are many people who just hoard materials, but as I said above, this is not a fundamental solution.

Additionally, if you focus on PVE, there are plenty of games to play as mentioned above, and the game I am currently playing is Starrail.

I'm satisfied with Mobinogi.

Can Epic Really Be a 20-Year-Old Game?

My opinion is that it won't happen at the moment, but from my perspective, if the following changes happen, I will return to Epic.

I think you might be interested.

1. Organize the direction of the game based on PVP criteria

PVE games are in many situations in the market, so to be honest, epics are not for them. They are trying to secure color as a PVP-centered game without people.

We need to analyze the time we play and encourage more time spent on PVP. When I look at the time I spend playing the game, it's like commuting to and from work.

The structure of the game needs to change so that only about 20 minutes of walking time is spent on automatic PVE and the rest of the time is spent on PVP.

It seems like it would be fun. The game company will figure out how to do it, but if you just think about it roughly, you can get a subjugation ticket if you fill up 30 minutes of Silena time.

I think there are many ways to do this if you put your mind to it, like giving 10, etc.

2. Easy PVP

The influence of each character's concept in the game should be limited. Do not have characters like Cheonjeol and Harceti that cannot respond to opponents.

I think a character like Geo who has control over the first turn is just right for the balance criteria. He can control all the first turn grabs, but

Geo has a weakness to the Sagittarius Sunturn with Inbit, and Geo's influence on the remaining roles except for the Sunturn catcher is limited. Geo is a Sunturn catcher or

It is easy to understand that characters with limited influence are used only for control purposes and no one uses them as main dealers or tanks.

The difficulty can be lowered to some extent by making Silena manualized around that character.

3. Respect for user experience and effort

As new characters are released, the act of making fools of existing meta characters continues to repeat itself. Epic balances the characters based on their pick rates.

Rather than saying whether it was good or bad, we need to think about how to make users continue to love the game. We need to think about the generational change that destroys all the existing ones.

If you repeat this, users like me will continue to leave the game because they are addicted to it.

It took me an hour to write it, and I wonder why I'm investing this much time in a game I've already given up on, but I also feel regretful about it.

So I hope you understand that this is just a bluff. For collectors like me, even if I dash around and throw out a lot of raffle tickets, it's not appealing at all.

Honestly, I don't know if I would come back even if the game was completely changed based on the three criteria above. I would come back because the old game was no longer fun.

That's because it requires a prerequisite to find a new structure, and anyway, I don't want the game to fail after 6 years, but I want it to last a long time.

I hope you all have a long run and survive well. Enjoy your epic adventures.