It's locked...
Have you already purchased her from Random Chat or are you interested in purchasing her?
So, just remember one thing.
As soon as the game starts, release the 'Start' button!
1. Make sure to use the pre-release mode.
The game is divided into two modes.
'Original Mode' that follows the original story
'Miyeonshi Mode', a new re-write of the original characters and story
But since it's a game based on a webtoon story, shouldn't the original mode come first?
Let me say this boldly.
This game's main body is the pre-release mode, which is like DLC.
Although the original mode has its shortcomings, the pre-release mode is more fun and better made.
Of course, it's a matter of personal preference.
But I'm sure many of you who have played this game will agree.
Play 'Uncensored Mode' without asking any questions.
The original mode is a bright and hopeful emotional pre-game mode that clears everything.
If you're wondering, 'I want to get a taste of the remaining content,' or 'Is there a dark story?', you can just go in.
"Isn't that too much? Since the original webtoon is such a masterpiece, wouldn't it have made a game out of it?"
I've been reading this webtoon since the first episode came out, with all my heart.
It's a period of almost seven years.
I usually don't say this, but I regret the time I spent watching the original.
No matter how well this original work is polished in the game, the problem will never be fixed.
That is, the original mode contains a lot of the unpleasantness of the original.
Although they did a good job of twisting the original parts and setting up routes where each heroine becomes entangled, to be honest, it's not well-made.
I couldn't resolve the unpleasantness that started to come out from the middle of the webtoon.
No amount of seasoning can save a ruined dish.
There is no choice but to tear it down and build anew.
This is the Miyeonsi mode that overturned and reborn the IP of 'Her from Random Chat' in the Tales Shop style.
What's the conclusion?
I know the original! I've already seen it, so go into pre-release mode.
I don't know the original! If you don't know, you don't have to watch it in the future, so just go into pre-release mode.
I, Kim Yong-Hyeon , strongly recommend this.
2. No, but how much is it?
I will list the good and bad points of the original mode that I felt.
I feel like I'm being too critical, but I'm going to be a little stronger today.
Good things about the original mode:
- The content volume is huge.
- A lot of work went into it, with dubbing for most characters and NPC dialogue changing according to the story.
Disappointing things about the original mode:
- The dialogue and dubbing are so awkward. Personally, I felt like the speech, dialogue, and voice were all awkward.
- Honestly, I don't know about the illustrations either. The characters feel too uniform.
- There are so many curses in the dialogue that it's embarrassing to listen to.
- The characters’ emotional lines and development lack plausibility.
- It's so annoying to move around and talk on the map, and the overall length is so long that it's boring. (Especially the public route is so long)
- The protagonist's way of thinking is so unpleasant that it's hard to watch.
- I clearly turned on the light to heal, but the atmosphere is too dark. It's not like there's a profound return value to the darkness.
It's not that I'm simply angry at the original work and just spewing out harsh words.
I'm actually quite honest when it comes to evaluating games.
[Her in Random Chat] I feel like the original mod didn't make the game well enough to cover up the aftereffects of the original.
This part is greatly improved in the pre-release mode.
Instead of trying to revive the ruined dish, I created a new one from scratch.
As the recent popular meme goes, "Normalization of [Random Chat's Her] by Tales Shop" is a perfect fit.
So what changes have occurred in the pre-release mode?
1. Dubbing: The voice actors have been possessed by a god.
Perhaps because the four heroines are the main characters, the awkwardness felt from the supporting actors has completely disappeared.
I think the feel of the dialogue may have also played a part.
The original mod had too many curse words and other words that were too embarrassing to say.
But even putting that aside, listening to the voice actors' voices in the pre-release mode is ear-melting.
This can't be happening unless you're possessed by a god.
I'm a fairly thick-skinned person, but I can count on one hand the number of people I've met.
2. Story: It's a somewhat unexpected but 'unprecedented' development.
Honestly, how many people would consider perfect probability or reality when making a prediction?
I think most people don't mind as long as it's not artificial enough to hurt their feelings.
What if the story begins with the protagonist and heroine meeting 'by a ridiculous coincidence' at the beginning of the game?
I watch with excitement, thinking, 'Oh, so that's how it starts?'
The pre-teen mode is, as expected from a pre-teen mode, full of these emotions.
Everything is done with a hopeful and somewhat random tone, making the user very excited.
This is the excitement that you can't feel in reality, you're imagining it in order to feel it.
It was really good in that respect.
In addition, it shows progress in illustrations and fine details.
The most important heroine's route story also has a quality that is on a different level from the original mode.
In other words, there is no reason not to enjoy the pre-release mode!
3. Go into the heroine review
Up to this point, there have been mixed reviews as to why this game should be in 'pre-game mode'.
I'm embarrassed because I feel like I got so seriously involved.
But you all know that reviews that are overly immersive are actually true, right?
From here on, I will review the heroine.
In fact, I don't need to explain how the pre-trial detention process works, right?
This game is not that different from other similar games in terms of detail, which makes it even more so.
So what's left to review?
It's the character.
Without giving any spoilers, I will point out the types, personalities, and charms of the characters.
This is enough to help you decide which character to target for your first attack.
3-1. Park Ha-min, True Friend's Emotions
My relationship with Park Ha-min starts off with a friendly, give-and-take feeling between girlfriends.
The first thing you encounter is the situation of 'getting dizzy while playing a game in a PC room' .
The protagonist gets into a huge argument with her and ends up losing everything.
But what is the absolute truth across the East and the West, past and present?
"If you're pretty, everything is forgiven."
The protagonist is captivated by Ha-min's appearance and decides to become friends with him.
After that, he starts approaching her under the pretense of asking her to tell him about the game, and they gradually become closer.
If you like the feeling of 'Dating a super pretty girlfriend who likes games?!', then you can run right now.
It's a real story where they start off bickering and being rough around the edges and then gradually fall for each other.
This feeling... is a taste that only those who know it know.
3-2. Yuri Lee, the true childhood friend attribute
A classic childhood friend setting, you can get the feel of it just by hearing it, right?
Yuri Lee is a female friend who has been close to me since middle school and is known as the 'one who doesn't look like a girl'.
Of course, this is based on the main character.
What kind of setting would be most appropriate for this type of character?
It's a cliché of clichés, but it's a setting that guarantees box office success when it appears.
'I take good care of the main character and I secretly like him!'
'But the indifferent protagonist doesn't know that!'
'And then, due to some incident, they start to fall for each other!'
'Once the angle is revealed, the heroine starts to shower us with plotting!'
This is the familiar taste of 'The taste of familiarity is scary'.
A childhood friend who was shy, but then came at me like a bulldozer, looking only at me when I showed my side?
I've put in only the most realistic and delicious settings.
For reference, my first progression route was the Yuri route.
I've been living alone for about 2-3 years now, and it's been a while since I felt excited.
3-3. Yoon Seong-ah, the girl from random chat
The name of this game and the original title, 'Her in Random Chat', refers to Yoon Seong-ah.
However, in the original work, the emotion that the random chat method gave could not be completely erased.
After all, the social perception of random chatting is inevitable.
The moment you start getting seriously involved, it's inevitable that you'll feel uneasy and uncomfortable.
The original route that I criticized so much above, but Yoon Seong-ah's route, was also quite well-received.
I played it pretty well, but it was hard to completely erase the feeling of those four random chat letters.
But in the pre-teen route, it was solved very well.
Random chatting has appeared, and encounters are triggered by this, but it doesn't feel unpleasant at all.
You go to a concert hall and start chatting with people within 1km of you.
After chatting for a while, you get to know each other and quickly move on to real-life stories.
This is a story about two people becoming closer through a series of mysterious encounters.
It's even more exciting because there's a love triangle instigator here who causes a mess between the two.
I liked how the strange conflict and misunderstanding between the main character and Seong-ah was expressed smoothly and not too harshly.
If you're curious about a chance encounter that could appear in an animation and the romance that begins from it, I recommend this.
I really like this route because Yoon Seong-ah's personality is refreshing and straightforward.
3-4. Seol-ri-ra, a strange person suddenly asked me to date him
A man wearing a puppet mask asks the main character out.
The protagonist, who was thirsty for love, readily accepts this.
Inside that doll was a pretty girl who you could trust even if she was in love.
I knew it was a woman's voice, but it was unexpected.
This is how the relationship between the protagonist and Seol-ri-ra begins.
You may think this is some kind of absurd development, but it really is.
The above Seong-Ah route is quite coincidental, but this one goes three steps further.
Here I will bring up one thing I said above.
Even stories like this don't matter as long as they are 'pretty' and artificial.
Because Miyeonsi is a world where you can experience fantasy romance.
This kind of beginning is the type that would never happen in reality, so I find it appealing.
Lyra's openly four-dimensional personality is also a charming point.
If there are four heroines in a fantasy novel, there has to be at least one character like this.
'A heroine with a story in a fourth dimension, her story is unraveled thanks to the main character.'
Wow... this is really delicious.
I won't say it's a spoiler, but the setting surrounding Lyra and the main character was also fascinating.
I think it clearly shows that their hearts are slowly growing closer to each other.
The most important emotional line in a story is described to the end.
I highly recommend it.
5. Overall Review
The reason why heroine reviews get longer as they go from Ha-min to Lira is because of the complexity of their characters and settings.
When you say 'This is it!' for Ha Min or Yuri, you can tell right away, but that's not the case for Seong Ah and Lira.
I didn't write this long because I particularly like the two below more.
This game really brought me a lot of emotions.
An original mod that captures the original's unpleasantness so well
A pre-release mode that lets you release this smoothly
Heroines who provide various healing with their own charms
Although this review started off with harsh criticism, it actually gave me enough healing.
But, honestly, 40,000 won is too expensive for this pre-release mode.
I recommend that you bring your discount coupon with you to enjoy the maximum discount.
The reason it's so expensive is because of the massive volume of the original mod.
The volume isn't that small in pre-release mode, so it's actually a reasonable price.
However, as someone who rejects the original mod, I would like to recommend purchasing it with at least 30% off and other coupons attached.
After a huge disappointment, a game that gave me more healing than that
But it's a game that I hesitate to buy at regular price.
This is a game that I would definitely recommend you buy and play in 'Unreleased Mode' if you get a certain amount of discount.
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― "많이 응모하면 무조건 당첨?" 정말 그럴까요?
스토브(STOVE)에서 진행하는 이벤트에는 "중복 응모 가능한 이벤트"가 자주 있습니다.
📣 “중복 응모 가능! 많이 응모할수록 당첨 확률 UP!”
이 말, 들으면 괜히 손이 근질거리죠. 1번보다는 10번, 10번보다는 50번!
“많이 응모하면 무조건 당첨되겠지!” 하고 생각하지만…
여기엔 의외의 수학적 함정이 숨어 있습니다.
🎲 많이 응모하면 당첨 확률이 진짜로 올라갈까?
당연히 올라갑니다! 응모권이 많아지면 그만큼 뽑힐 확률도 올라가죠.
예를 들어 총 응모 횟수가 3,700회고, 그 중 50번을 내가 응모했다면?
그냥 나누면 “50개 중 10명 뽑히니까… 당첨 확률은 약 13.5%?”
이 계산도 틀린 건 아니지만, 정확하지도 않아요.
왜냐고요? 다른 사람들도 중복 응모했기 때문이에요.
실제로 이 경우의 ‘진짜 기대 확률’은, 산술 계산보다 1%가량 낮은 약 12.6%밖에 안 됩니다.
오히려 살짝 낮아지는 거죠. 그럼 100번 응모하면? 200번은?
100번 응모 → 당첨 확률 약 23.7%
200번 응모 → 당첨 확률 약 41.8%
(계산의 편의를 위해 최대 값을 고정한 값이라, 실제로는 더 낮아집니다.)
맞습니다. 2배 많이 응모해도 당첨 확률은 2배 증가가 안됩니다!
응모권이 많아지면 많아질수록, ‘1개당 기여하는 당첨 확률’은 점점 떨어지는 특성이 있습니다. 이게 바로 “중복 응모의 함정”이죠.
📉 응모권 1장당 효과는 점점 줄어든다!?
한 번만 응모한 사람의 1장과, 500장 낸 사람의 1장은 ‘무게’가 다릅니다.
쉽게 말해, 처음 몇 장은 확률을 팍팍 올리지만
나중엔 거의 “물 한 방울 추가” 수준의 영향력밖에 없어요.
처음에 1장만 응모했을 때, 1%의 당첨 확률을 가질 수 있지만,
2장 응모한다고 2%가 아닌, 2%보다 더 낮은 확률을 갖게 되는 것이죠.
물론 전체 확률을 보면 당첨 확률은 올라가지만, 응모권 1장 마다의 기대 당첨율은 낮아지는 것이죠.
수학적으로 보면, 이건 “희박한 확률이 누적되면 어떻게 되는가”라는 흥미로운 문제인데요,
우리는 이걸 ‘포아송 근사’라는 도구로 재밌게 풀어볼 수 있습니다.
(…라고 말해도 몰라도 괜찮아요. 중요한 건 이런 흐름이 있다는 것!)
📚 희귀 확률의 계산에 사용되는 '프아송 근사'
이 '프아송 근사' 추측을 통해서 하나 더 게이머에게 중요한 확률의 함정을 알 수도 있습니다.
바로 "뽑기 확률"입니다. SSR의 확률이 0.1% 로 고지되어 있고, 실제로 시스템에도 0.1%로 설정되어 있더라도,
게이머가 체감하게 되는 확률은 더 낮습니다.
0.1%니깐, 1000번 뽑으면 100% 나오겠네? 라고 생각하기 쉽지만,
프아송 근사를 통해 우리가 실질적으로 느끼는 확률을 보면...
프아송 근사
P(적어도 1번)≈1−e ^(−λ)
여기서 𝜆=시도 횟수×뽑기 확률
🔍 해석 포인트 : 0.1% 확률이라면
100번 돌려도 90%의 사람들은 못 뽑습니다, 600번은 해줘야 반반입니다.
1000회를 뽑더라도 63.3% 확률 밖에 갖질 못합니다.
천장이 없던 시절에는, 표기값에도 불구하고 너무나 뽑기가 안나오는 것 같았던 이유도 여기에 있죠.
숫자 장난을 친 게 아니라, 희귀 확률에서의 기대 당첨값은 적혀있는 숫자보다 더 작기 때문입니다.
일부 가챠 방송에서, 수천만원을 녹여도 나오지 않는 이유가 여기에 있죠.
일부 가차 게임은 이런 확률도 고려해서 시스템을 설정하기도 하는데, 일반적으로는 그렇게까지는 안해줍니다 ㅠㅠ
그래서 우리가 하는 뽑기 게임은 기본적으로 "플레이어가 지는 게임"입니다.
🔚 정리하며
중복 응모는 확실히 이득입니다.
하지만 많이 낸다고 반드시 유리해지는 건 아닙니다.
특히 전체 응모 수가 많아질수록, "내 응모권 1장의 영향력"은 서서히 줄어들죠.
최대 응모 횟수를 분산해서, "계란을 한 바구니에 담지 말라"는 조언을 따르는 편이, 전체적인 당첨 확률은 높다는 것입니다.
그러니 응모도 적당히, 가챠도 적당히^^
크~ 이거 『수학』이네요.
아아.. 이것이 『수학』 이다.
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
당첨 확률을 조금이라도 높이기 위한 발악입니다 ㅋㅋㅋ
뽑기의 확률은...
아무리 확률을 계산해도 결국은 운이죠 ㅠㅠ
ㄷㄷㄷㄷ 플레이크 올인해도 안될건 안되던 이유가ㅠㅠ
올인의 희생자가 ㅠㅠ
그런데 올인 해도 안되는 건, 정말 운이 없으셨던 거라 ㅠㅠ
좋은 정보!!!
아주 잘알고있습니다
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중복도 될놈될 안될안이라 걍 마음비우고하던지 아니면 아예 안하던지 해야되는듯 ㅎㅎ
맞습니다 ㅋㅋㅋ 어차피 될 사람은 1번 응모해도 당첨되고, 안될 사람은 올인해도 안되드라고요 ㅋㅋㅋ
응모도 투자도 언제나 분산으로...
안전한(?) 분산 응모로 당첨의 행운을 누리세요! ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
결론적으로 "가챠는 나쁜 문명이다" 이런거군요
가챠는 망해야 하는 문명! ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
막줄 추!
역시 적당한게 최고죠! ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ